即使我們已經(jīng)超過微軟公司成為第一，

we won’t be happy unless we are doing our best,

我們也不能高興，除非我們盡力了，

unless we’re innovating at a rate that we’really proud of.

除非我們高速進行改革，那我們將真正的值得驕傲。

That must a creating technology,delivering value to customers,

那將必須創(chuàng)造科技，給消費者帶來價值。

to live in high quality services to customers is the best we can do.

讓消費者生活在高質量的服務中，那是我們所能做的最好的。

We all create a little tests for ourselves,this yaknow to discover our own limits,the limits to our ability.

我們?yōu)樽约簞?chuàng)作了一些測試，這將可以發(fā)現(xiàn)我們自己的限度，也即我們能力的限制。

And what a little of limits of work on?

工作中什么是界限?

I mean can we become number one.

那意味著我們能成為第一。

Okay,we’ll never win Microsoft,can we be larger than IBM,yaknow,I don’t know.

行，我們將從不會贏微軟，我們能比IBM更大嗎，我不知道。

But we are gonna try.We’re curious,and the whole journey is exciting.

但是我們將要去試一試，我們很好奇，整個旅程是激動人心的。

If one day you’ve achieved your goal,

如果有一天你的目標都實現(xiàn)了，

beaten Microsoft and surpassed IBM,and become number one.

你也擊敗了微軟，超過IBM成為第一。

What your motivation then?

那么你現(xiàn)在的動機又是什么?

Oh,there’s great thing about life as you never run out of challenges,

哦，有很多有關生活的大事情，就像你從來沒有經(jīng)過挑戰(zhàn)一樣。

and I want to be in Oracle for my entire life and I think.

我想讓我的生活成為一個神話。

I owned a cancer research company that’s partially in United States and partially in Israel,

我屬于一個癌癥研究公司，它部分屬于美國，另一部分是以色列。

and I am chairman of that company,I am planning a second career.

我是那個公司的總裁，我在計劃第二個癌癥研究。

I got two jobs right now.

我剛剛得到兩份工作。

I am working,I got a day job in Oracle,and I am getting an extra kind of job,a quack biotechnology,

我在工作，在Oracle公司我是全日的，我很有一個額外的工作，一個騙人的生物工藝學。

and I intend to go to around that market biology and cancer research company myself.

我自己打算全面去進行生物學市場和癌癥研究公司。

So some points you gonna change careers,that get happens,

因此一些人指出你打算去改變事業(yè)，那是要發(fā)生的，

yaknow even you are at my advanced age you can change careers and going into biotech.

你知道的，在你年老時你可以改變事業(yè)，進入生物學。

While we are communicating with our audience,some questions also have been collected by via Eastnet.

在我們現(xiàn)在跟觀眾交流的同時，我們利用東方網(wǎng)在給我們的話題收集一些問題。

Now the questions are ready.It seems that most people have much interest in the relationship between you and Bill Gates.

問題已經(jīng)準備好了，看來大部分人還是對你和比爾·蓋茨的關系很感興趣。

One question goes to you as "Bill Gates enjoys general popularity in China,

一個問題是這樣問的，比爾·蓋茨在中國頗有人緣，

which not only depends on his legendary history of carving out business,

這不僅依仗他傳奇的創(chuàng)業(yè)史，

his world richest position,but also his charitable deeds."

世界首富的地位，還有他樂善好施的行為。“

How do you measure his behavior on philanthropy?

你是怎么看待比爾·蓋茨這方面的善舉?

If in terms of charity or philanthropy and how to measure,charity and how to measure philanthropy,

如果就根據(jù)施舍或慈善事業(yè)去衡量的話，施舍將怎樣去衡量慈善。

I’d rather speak of this topic.

我寧愿說這個主題。

All too often,every time someone writes a check for charity,

經(jīng)常，總有人為慈善開一張支票。

they also issue a press release to take credit for the fact they wrote a check.

為了讓人們相信他們開支票的事實，他們也經(jīng)常開新聞發(fā)布會，

How big is the gift,and in fact the size of the gift is not.

多么大的禮物，事實上，那個禮物的尺寸并不這樣。

What’s important,what’s important is what did they accomplish,what were the result.

那是重要的，他們完成的重要性，就是那個結果。

If you spend one billion dollars trying to cure cancers but failed,and helped nobody.

如果你花了10億美圓，試圖去醫(yī)治癌癥但是卻失敗了，沒有幫到任何人。

All you’ve done is wasted one billion dollars.

你所做的僅僅是浪費10億美圓。

If you spend one million dollars trying to cure a cancer,

如果你花10美圓去醫(yī)治一個癌癥者，

and you did cure a cancer,you have accomplished a great deal more.

并醫(yī)治好了那個癌癥，你就完成了更多。

And now who is the bigger philanthropist?

那么誰將是更大的慈善家?

The person has spent one billion and accomplished nothing,

花了10億卻沒有完成什么事的人，

or the person has spent one million and cured a cancer?

還是花了10億醫(yī)治好一個癌癥的人?

I’ve got a medical foundation we are not going a lot of detail,

我已經(jīng)建了一個醫(yī)學基地，還沒有進行大量的細節(jié)問題。

twenty fifteen million dollars into the medical foundation,and we do a number of things such as sexual diseases,cancer research,etc.

2。3億美圓投入醫(yī)學基地,我們做了大量的有關性病、癌癥等疾病的研究。

But I don’t spend a lot of time issuing press releases,saying,talking about how much I have contributed.

但是我沒有花很多時間去作新聞發(fā)布會，談論我作出了多大的貢獻。

I am much more interested in issuing press releases in saying how.

我對如何進行開發(fā)布會更感興趣。

What diseases we’ve cured,what problems we’ve solved,not how much money we’ve spent.

我們要醫(yī)治的疾病是什么，我們已解決的問題是什么，而不是我們花了多少錢，

We all know that in the process to achieve number one,

那么，在成為第一的過程中，

Microsoft did buy and annex many companies of others,and destroy many companies.

微軟公司其實是通過并購，收購人家公司，也摧毀了不少公司。

It’s obvious that it’s very hard to be number one in a certain industry.

那么做第一的過程看來也是相當艱苦的。

One of the netizen wants to ask you that you don’t agree on the deeds of monopolizing,

有一個網(wǎng)民還有一個問題：你很反對這種壟斷的，

destroying others’ companies adopted by Microsoft.

摧毀別人公司的這種做法，都是微軟采用的手段。

Now does your company set out to destroy others’ companies to be number one?

現(xiàn)在你的公司是否也會為了得到第一名摧毀別人的公司?

We do not set out to destroy a company.

我們不會摧毀一個公司。

We don’t say,I am really gonna..and the focus is really destroy this company.

我不是說，我真正的想去摧毀一個公司。

However,if we’ve built a product that is much better than another company’s product,

然而，如果我們生產(chǎn)一個比另一家公司更好的產(chǎn)品。

and that company cease to be competitive,that company can disappear.

那么，那個公司將會不具有競爭性，它也會消失的。

So also in our history we’ve been competing with companies like Sybase and Informix and a company called Ingrace which was disappeared.

因此，在我們公司的歷史中，我們曾經(jīng)跟Sybase公司和Informix 公司競爭過，結果他們都消失了。

The companies that we’ve beat in the marketplace sometimes ceases to exist.

有時候在我們市場里一些公司也被擊敗了。

And that’s the natural process of competition.

那就是競爭的自然性。

I think that’s one as long as you don’t break the law,doing it.

我認為只要你打破法律那是唯一的一個。

If you do break...set out to just lower your prices which was Microsoft did destroying Netscape,

如果你真的打破了，僅僅降低你的價格，就像微軟摧毀Netscape公司一樣。

then you breaking the law,then you’ve done things that you are not allowed to do,and you need to be punished.

那么，你一打破法律，你所做的事情就不許去做了，你將得到懲罰。

You think that any measures of competition could be adopted as long as they are legal,don’t you?

你是覺得只要是在不違法的情況下，任何的競爭手段都是可以的嗎?

I also think you should be ethical in your competition.

在你的競爭中，我也認為會與倫理有關的。

Again you shouldn’t...I mean try to deceive anybody.

你應該不會的，去欺騙任何人。

So we are really focus on the way we can compete and the way is not to say:boy,we want to destroy this company,

因此我們真正關注的方法是競爭，而不是去說，孩子，我們想去摧毀這個公司。

let’s build the best possible product we can build,

讓我們盡可能的生產(chǎn)更好的產(chǎn)品。

let’s go to the best possible service we can deliver,and the market will take care of itself.

讓我們傳遞更好的服務，市場僅僅關心它本身。

Oh,I think we had absolutely.

哦，我認為我們絕對會的。

It’s a little bit..I am not very good at T-shirt design.

它有一點大，我并不善于襯衫的設計。

I try started my shark looking of like an arrow.

我試圖扮演像一個專家具有的眼光。

So we had to get some who’s better artist than I was.

因此我不得不去找一些比我更好的藝術家。

But what our engineers really do to beat Informix is not well T-shirts.

但是我們的工程師更善于對付Informix而不是襯衫。

What our engineers do that is to build better products,delivering better service and the T-shirts were just fun.

我們工程師只想生產(chǎn)更好的產(chǎn)品，傳遞更好的服務，襯衫僅僅是玩笑。

I try to make sure that no one was on a position to bit my oxygen.

我試著去決定沒有一個人能替代我重要的位子。

Yaknow I try to be the shark.

你知道，我想成為行家。

Well,I can’t imagine anyone.I’d rather give up the number one’s slot to the gentleman that’s right in front of them.

哦，我不能設想任何人。在他們面前我寧可放棄第一而保住紳士的形象。

I think you’re matching the shark.

我認為這和行家匹配。

I believe,life,you have to constantly move forward in life.

我相信在生活中你不得不堅持不懈地向前移。

So I think we constantly setting goals,and achieving those goals and we reset these goals and keep moving forward.

因此我認為我們應經(jīng)常定目標，然后實現(xiàn)這些目標，再定這些目標，一直向前移動。

And that’s all,yaknow work was the number two in the world and the only goal we can set is to be the number one,that’s the only thing that’s left.

你知道，這就是。在世界上工作第二，我們多能定的唯一目標就是成為第一，那是唯一剩下的事情。

We are out of goals.

我們都處于目標之外，

But I agree that what’s really important is to make progress everyday,to improve ourselves everyday,to test ourselves and see if we are capable everyday.

但是我同意真正重要的是每天都取得進步，去測試我們自己，看我們每天是否都有能力勝任。

And it really is a guide to a happy life and a happy and fulfilling life.

那才是對一個幸福生活，充實生活的真正的引導。

It’s a little that way.

它有一點那樣。